Add Equal Parts Business and Culture. Blend until Smooth.
In a post today on Not An MBA, the boys evaluated the business side of coworking.
And to be completely honest, I’m a little bothered by the category that we’ve been put into. We seem to be pushed aside in favor of the critically “for profit” models in terms of sustainability.
The irony in this? Between the list of Profit and Not-For Profit coworking ventures, we’re among the few to be turning ANY profit, even if its not a lot.
Before I go any further, please note:
Drew and Todd, I’m not mad at you. I still like you guys. You just greased some already turning gears.
Non Profit isn’t a State of Mind
We’ve never claimed to be not-for-profit. We’re very much for profit. But our *initial* focus, outside of community building, was on break even.
Early on, Geoff and I discussed the benefits of going either way. We decided, together, that operating IndyHall as a for-profit business was absolutely critical.
There’s nothing in the world stopping a coworking community from operating within a profitable coworking space. But I think THAT is where the line is drawn.
This isn’t Chicken and Egg, People.
For the sake of this example, there are two types of coworking: communities, and spaces.
- You can operate a coworking community without a for-profit coworking space. Jelly is a fine example of that.
- You can operate a coworking space without a coworking community. You can provide all kinds of nice services and amenities. You can hope and pray and wish. And people will show up. In an ideal situation, they’ll even nest.
But this has been done before and, in my mind, isn’t particularly compelling.
That’s my opinion, but it’s also the opinion of many, as illustrated by the transition away from traditional incubator setups into the Y-Combinator (also see Colorado based TechStars, and Philly local DreamIT Ventures) model where you’re still evaluated as a participant of the space, but along with the space and small business services, you find yourself surrounded by like minded entrepreneurs at similar points in their business experience as one another. And just like “working alone sucks”, “starting a business alone sucks, too”.
You can jam services down people’s throats to attract them like moths to a lightbulb. Who DOESN’T want a swanky office. People will come for the shiny stuff, but you’re going to need some substance to keep them there. That substance? Culture.
So, it’s not Chicken and Egg?
Oh, right. I was making a point. My point was, if you establish a business before establishing the community, you’re pretty much guaranteed to end up imposing on the single most important asset of ANY coworking community.
The culture.
If you’ve created the business without the prior influence of the community of it’s users, you will inevitably be forced to make decisions for the business that are contrary to the members interests. THAT is business.
And culture, imposed upon a community, inevitably crumbles that community.
Culture, carefully cultivated and built on top of, is sustainable.
I’m not saying you don’t need business. You do. You absolutely, positively do. If you’re thinking about starting a coworking space and don’t have any business experience, get a business adviser. NOW. I got lucky and got Geoff DiMasi as a partner.
Remember, I’m not saying that a community is the core. I’m saying the culture is. That’s a really big difference from the messages I’ve sent in the past. I’m going to be revisiting this a lot. In part, this is due to some realizations that ‘community’ as a term is getting dumbed down by overuse and overemphasis. Thanks, Kathy Sierra, for joining twitter and sharing this thought at just the right time.
Every coworking space has it’s own culture. Recently, Tara Hunt of Citizen Space (also one of the “not-for-profit” coworking spaces, as appointed by Not An MBA), remarked about how despite the 14+ person waiting list for Citizen Space, when she tried sending the people on the waiting list to any of the other spaces in the vicinity (and rumor has it that San Francisco has a BUNCH very diverse of coworking spaces and communities), the people on their waiting list said, “No, thanks. We don’t just want coworking. We want Citizen Space coworking. We’ll wait.”, or something to that effect.
I recently made my first visit to Citizen Space.
Yes, it’s beautiful.
Yes, it’s in a convenient location.
Most of all, for me, it felt like home. And that had nothing to do with the physical location, which was 3000 miles away from my REAL home. The culture was familiar.
Is Citizen Space for everybody? Of course not. That’s why San Francisco has a number of other coworking options. Is IndyHall for everybody? No way. And that’s why I eagerly await another variant of Philadelphia coworking. Please. Somebody step up. Do it you’re way. I’ll even help. Pick my brain. Anything you want, except a check. Cuz I don’t want you to be answering to me when you’re making plays with my money.
And, of course, I’m not in any kind of financial position to be investing. At least until someone figures out how to convert Whuffie to US Dollars. If you do figure that out, email me please.
Money Changes Everything
When you’ve got large sums of money and salaries on the line, your decision making skills are changed. It’s inevitable. It’s the most common issue I’ve seen with the relatively small contact I’ve had with startup founders.
Product managers do not make good CEOs. I mean, they can be one or the other, but it’s not a good idea for the product manger to BE the CEO. The results are obvious: product roadmap decisions driven by the guy dangling the checking account balance in front of you are not going to be the same as decisions made for the end goal.
What I am trying to get across is order of operations.
One foot before the other.
Crawl before you walk.
Walk before you run.
Put on your pants before your shoes.
Build an unstoppable community to take part in the development of your business.
So Coworking is Profitable?
I’ve never ever gone on record saying coworking can’t be profitable. It can. I hope that someone (and it doesn’t need to be us) proves that it can be CRAZY profitable, just to prove the cynics wrong.
I just hope that doesnt attract the wrong people to the community.
I HAVE gone on record saying that our end-game isn’t to be rich from coworking. The true values are corollary, for the members and the owners. That does NOT mean, however, that they are intangible.
I HAVE gone on record saying that by making profit your number one priority, you’re going to have to work a whole lot harder to adapt your profitability to fit the needs of your community. It’s doable, but it’s challenging.
And I don’t know about you, but I prefer to work smarter and retain my quality of life than work more than I already have for an unknown, anticipated, calculated gain.
Philly’s own Josh Kopelman said at the recent kickoff of DreamIT Ventures first season,
“I’d rather back an entrepreneur who can adapt to change than an entrepreneur who claims he has all of the answers. Because, inevitably, every business plan starts out wrong.
Agile as a Business
Geoff has pointed out our decision to run this as a business is to be able to keep it open, iterate, and improve. We take this process for granted as we both come from agile software development backgrounds. The methodologies of Agile are second nature to us.
Having a strong and committed culture, our (paying) members help drive those iterations forward because it doesn’t just benefit IndyHall (the business).
It benefits IndyHall (the community).

29. May 2008 at 19:02
Hey Man-
Nice to see that I got some blood pressure up and rising. Don’t hang anything on Todd, he’s at Disney World w/ family. So this one is all me. I just see the same types of contraints appearing over and over again, and wonder where the long-term solutions lie…
Cheers,
Drew
29. May 2008 at 19:14
Hey Drew,
I see the same constraints over and over as well. Many of them are artificial or self-imposed. No matter what, though, the process is evolutionary. The problem is, almost everyone is at the same step of the evolution. And until more people fail from their mistakes, we’re not going to know what truly *doesn’t* work.
It’s up to us, as leaders in this much LARGER learning community, to step outside of the bounds we’ve created for ourselves and explore new things. Successes AND failures.
That’s the only way that this is going to make it’s way into the textbooks.
And for the record: wondering what the long term solutions are is free.
Actually finding them? Priceless.
29. May 2008 at 19:30
I think one of the misconceptions with co-working is that it’s a long term solution for everyone. I work in Indy Hall . . . correction . . . I love working in Indy Hall but I don’t anticipate being there five years from now. As a narrowly defined ‘work space’ it’s not the end game for me. Will Indy Hall still exist if I’m not working there every day? Most assuradly yes! Will I still be a part of the culture and community? If I still have a pulse the odds are looking good (sorry if I sound like a magic eight ball I hate to sound like a prophet that kids himself into knowing the outcome of an one thing). For many of us co-working spaces are harbors of hope where we EXPERIENCE what it can be like to work with like minded individuals who are committed to making life better for ourselves and our community one web app/web site/icon/logo/social network/day at a time. It’s a place to get your head on straight before the dizziness of success tries to spin it off, because hard working smart people will deal with have to deal with success at some level at some point. Is co-working a long term solution? In a sense no, not for many individuals (I’m sure there will be some exceptions to the rule). But rest assured it still has it’s long term place in culture and society. As long as there is an inventor/entrepreneur/designer/programmer/whatever that needs a small space to get started, to do his thing, and the community to support his pie in the sky ideas there will be a need for co-working. Thank God for Indy Hall, it changed my life :-)
30. May 2008 at 04:37
Hi Guys
I have been talking about failures and successes and it is great to see that really we all share the same thought processes.
I have had my share of successes and failures and wanted to help other business people. After going broke and loosing everything i decided enough was enough and created a business against all the odds to help Entrepreneurs globally to realise their dreams - by reducing their risk..
Million Impossible was born during November 2007 and after 6 months we have created 4 successful websites that are helping our members unite together and go from dreams reality..
Regards Bradley Chapman
Founder
Million Impossible Plc
http://www.millionimpossible.com
Tel +44 (0) 845 468 5000
30. May 2008 at 09:53
Interesting article Alex,
I’m an intern with Anthillz, so I currently work at the Science Center with the rest of the DreamIT Ventures companies. There is a complete difference between people jointly renting a work space, and people jointly building a community based on shared success and I’m glad you mentioned some of the community-based startup incubators.
We’re definitely a community based on helping each other succeed. We’ve already had Fishbowl sessions, where a company facing a few specific issues brings them up to the rest of the companies and then we all brainstorm and try to help the company come up with a solution. We’ve all been raking each others brains via email, as well as letting the other companies be the first Beta testers. Our interactions at this stage are almost like having a whole board entrepreneurial minds at our disposal, nearly 24/7.
I haven’t had the pleasure of seeing IndyHall at work, however based on my experience with DreamIT thus far — I definitely agree with you on the point that something this good, that generates this much value, can absolutely be profitable.
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6. June 2008 at 16:46
Alex,
Please, please do not present VC projects like Y Combinator as “traditional incubators.” The vast majority — 94% — of the 1,100+ business incubation programs in the United States are nonprofit entities focused on economic development. You have several examples of great business incubators right there in Philadelphia — at Drexel and Temple universities, plus The Science Center. (In fact, the National Business Incubation Association’s highest honor, the Randall Whaley Incubator of the Year Award, is named for a key pioneer of the University City Science Center and is endowed by the Friends of University City Science Center, comprising prominent Philadelphia business people and academics who worked with Dr. Whaley.)
You may find incubation to be “not compelling,” but tens of thousands of entrepreneurs find their true home in business incubators every year. Most business incubation professionals work their buns off to create an atmosphere in which their clients can exchange ideas and offer mutual support. It’s not just about the space, or even the services. It’s about bringing like-minded people together — a community.
Before I went back to work full-time (yes, for the National Business Incubation Association), I was a self-employed freelance writer and editor for 10 years. I would have LOVED having a space like Independents Hall as an option. But not all entrepreneurs have the skills to make their businesses successful. A business incubation program can give that individual (or company) the advice and support to grow strong and healthy.
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16. June 2008 at 08:48
Hey Alex! Great post… Just wanted to say that I completely agree with you. Community has to come first - of course with any for-profit business, there’s going to be a drive towards becoming profitable. However, I sincerely believe that if you do the right thing by your community, you’re benefit ten fold.
Being genuine and wanting to make a difference I believe is transparent - when people can see that you’re wanting to do the right thing for the community, the bond is made stronger and so the community grows.
I really hope that things continue to go from strength to stregth at IndyHall (wish that I was there to check it out myself).
Mel :)